Apple Inc. has recently become the second-largest company on the S&P 500 in terms of market capitalization, surpassing Microsoft Corp. We have much to learn from the success of Apple and I would love to discuss this topic with you.
In your opinion, what makes Apple so successful? How could they become even more successful?
What are your thoughts?
In your opinion, what makes Apple so successful?
How could they become even more successful?
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June 12, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
A large part is Fashion, right?
The iPod (the thing that started the whole Apple ecosystem) was billed as a fashionable item. The advertising was iconic and fun, the headphones were distinctive, the design was unique, the UX was innovative.
It became a must have item. From then on, Apple could then grow through their REAL ASSET: The Apple Ecosystem. They can now plug anything into that ecosystem (iPad, for instance) and they have done 60% of the work already.
What are their successful devices? iPod, iPhone and iPad – all of which take from the ecosystem and are fashion status items. If you are seen with one, you have status.
Just some thoughts rattlling around in my head!
Scott
June 12, 2010 at 7:07 pm |
Thank you for kicking off this discussion, Scott.
Fashion!? Well, the way I’ve seen people flashing their new iPads around recently, I can see what you mean. The products really do have bling-appeal.
Fashions come and go so quickly nowadays, is there a danger that becoming perceived as too much of a ‘fashion item’ can lower their technical credibility and/or reduce their product ‘shelf-life’?
What do *you* think, Scott?
Robin
June 12, 2010 at 6:37 pm |
Working in-house some years ago I had to use a non-Mac. It was one of the most frustrating performances of my professional life. I angrily declared that if this thing was so smart why did I have to learn the computer’s language rather than the other way round.
The Apple GUI and most of its internal architecture speaks human, works human. My syntax here is become a little unruley but what I mean is that it is tailored to work with me. It is, as they say, intuitive. As such it is mostly a pleasure to use, not a chore.
Johnathan Ives (why isn’t he knighted?) has extended this into the product design and these days the whole experience is pretty seamless. Not perfect, but ahead of the pack enough to make Apple my default choice, as it has been for years.
How many purchases have you on the edge of your seat for the next one?
June 12, 2010 at 7:13 pm |
Hey Gary, thank you for contributing to this discussion.
I love your thought “tailored to work with me”. Yes, surely this is a source of real advantage. One of the big reasons I refuse to upgrade to more ‘productive’ technology is that it’s such an unproductive exercise.
Gary, how close do you think Apple are to exhausting their step-change product design capacity? Who do you regards as their biggest threat in the marketplace – or emerging threat?
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 8:17 pm |
The limits to Apple in their step-change product design capacity is simply their imagination – and battery life limitations!
I think their biggest threat might just be hubris. Now they are not the underdog anymore. As they start to behave like a Big Bad Corporate they risk alienating their evangelists. After all they have been Apple’s unpaid Sales Force.
But this is just a professional user’s view. I hope Apple don’t lose their mojo.
June 14, 2010 at 9:06 pm |
Thank you, Gary. I appreciate your builds. You’ve just got to marvel at that unpaid sales force!
Best, Robin
June 12, 2010 at 6:46 pm |
Hi Robin,
Actually, I think Seth Godin nailed this pretty well in his blog post Secrets of the Biggest Selling Launch Ever. Not only must you continue to innovate in spaces deemed “too crowded to enter” to redefine how the user integrates your product or service into their lives, but you also need to focus on building your community and a supporting ecosystem so that all your eggs aren’t in one basket.
Few organizations manage to do this well, and others, like Nokia, have all of the bits in place, but still haven’t managed to generate the same results. World-wide marketshare is a different story, but that’s pulling in oranges into an Apples to N-series comparision.
Interested to hear what others think.
Cheers,
ast
June 12, 2010 at 7:17 pm |
Hey Andrew, it’s wonderful to receive your contribution to this discussion. Thank you.
Thank you for the link to Seth’s post.
Andrew, in your opinion, how do Apple get so many people – their community – so excited about their products? For example, I had a colleague ring me recently and almost scream down the phone at me “Robin, you must buy an iPad. They’re unbelievable!”
Best, Robin
June 12, 2010 at 6:46 pm |
Hey Robin,
You knew I’d bite
Apple. Where do I start? The only “credible” alternative to Microsoft computing in the 90′s? The mystique & tooling around creatives (designers, photographers, composers) in the 2000′s? The inordinate success of the iPod?
I think I’ll start with the iPod, because let’s be honest, that’s what made Apple a household name. Interestingly, the iPod first saw the light of day as a 5GB device physically bigger than today’s 160GB “Classic.” It debuted in the time of Napster, Bit Torrent, and Limewire. Well before the iTunes store. Your only option to put music on the device was to rip CD’s (then illegal, not to mention technical) or download MP3′s illegally.
But the promise of carrying all of your music around with you, compared to CD’s or Cassettes, was enough to explode the music download revolution.
There have been many other MP3 players, with many more features, from Sony, Samsung, Archos (French), Creative (known for audio in the PC world) – but the word iPod has become synonymous with a portable music player. Much like Hoover, Biro, and others have morphed to mean the brand they describe.
So their 1st step to success, was to “create” the (consumer) market for portable HDD music players. Adding iTunes to that, and making it easy to get music legally made it mainstream.
Their 2nd secret sauce is that they know their market intimately. They do not discount, they are not the cheapest, they don’t bother with features, but appeal to the emotional wants of their target market – which as far as I can tell is the affluent, 1st world, 16 – 24 year old demographic. All of their advertising, their brand promise, and even design is aimed at this market.
Which is why I chuckle every time I hear a 40+ Technophile GenX whinge about there not being “multi-tasking” or “replaceable battery” or “expandable storage.” Don’t get me wrong, mea culpa here too. I’m not so hypocritical as to point out I’ve publicly made these same derisive remarks. But I’m part of a select demographic which is not Steve Job’s target (although he happily takes my money).
The demographic with $$; with potential to change the world as they enter the workplace; who has grown up with ubiquitous connectivity; who wants to associate with an iconic brand – 16-24 yr old, 1st World, affluent. Incidentally this is the same age group harnessed for every revolution from the Reformation, to Communism. It’s the age group we send to war. Full of idealistic zeal. Why then do older people also love Apple products too? The wish to be hip, cool, and young. Followed by how the technology actually enables you.
Secret sauce #3 – Pare away functionality to the bare essentials. How do people use technology? Do they buy replaceable batteries? (No) Do they want to manage a gazillion memory cards and formats, and readers? (No) Do they care about processor speed, camera resolution, FM radio, CD/DVD drives? No, No, No, No.
Secret sauce #4 – Beautiful simplicity. Remember you’re not competing on price, so you don’t need to skimp on materials. Plastic? pah! We’ll use a single piece of machined aluminium. Make it easy to use. Make it so people don’t have to think, or read, or study to do the things they want to do!
Secret Sauce #5 – control the ecosystem. It’s the only way you can guarantee quality. Don’t let anyone else create something under your brand. This was counter-productive with PC’s because having channel partners allows scale, but it’s proven amazingly successful with music, video, and phone.
Secret Sauce #6 – premium pricing. It’s great psychology. “Reassuringly Expensive.” It makes everyone think that you have something exclusive, and we all want to belong to that exclusive club.
My Final one:
#7 Platform lock in. This is not unique. But once you’ve invested in speakers with iPod Docks, iPhone applications, iMac software, it becomes more expensive to switch platforms than to upgrade.
This is a dangerous road to hoe, as MS found out. As you start becoming dominant in a market, and I’d suggest the iPod is there, proprietary interfaces become anti-competitive. I’m really surprised that it’s only the EU forcing a std USB connector for Apple products. It’s criminal that you can’t dock competitor players to 3rd party speaker systems.
Of all of these the most important is know your target market intimately, and make them feel important with your product. Richard Branson is successful here too (with the same demographic) and Coca-Cola is probably the master.
2c (Free for you)
June 12, 2010 at 7:28 pm |
Wow, Rog. That’s a generous and thoughtful contribution indeed. Thank you.
Certainly makes me w-a-y out of the target demographic band – thankfully!
I really love the details you provided and would be interested in your opinion on how Apple get their community to ‘sell’ their products so hard to friends and colleagues.
For example, everyone I know who’s bought an iPad has either blogged about it, demonstrated it, commented about it
, pitched it or just plain old hard sold it – to get others to go and buy one. That sales and marketing force of highly motivated and persistent evangelists is priceless. I’ve never been ‘told’ to buy a Nokia or Zune or Windows7 or Android etc. Your thoughts?
Best, Robin
June 12, 2010 at 6:59 pm |
Hey Andrew,
I think I disagree with your comments about Nokia. Couple of thoughts:
1) In the 90′s Nokia dominated digital mobile telephony the way the iPod has done with digital portable music. Nokia phones were fashion statements, and very popular with young people – especially in Europe.
2) Nokia still dominates brand awareness across the developing world – they are status symbols, fashion statements, and driving over 15m handsets a month in India – similarly in China, Brazil, Russia.
I do agree they’ve lost their way in the US and are not so fashionable in Europe/Australia anymore. There needs to be a reinvention. They’ve become the commodity.
But for a company over 160 years old, that was known for paper from the obscure nation of Finland, they still command huge global brand awareness.
Disclaimer – I worked for Nokia in the 90′s and Microsoft in the 2000′s
June 12, 2010 at 7:32 pm |
Great discussion, if for no other reason than like most Apple users, I love, love, LOVE Apple.
First up, I think Steve Jobs is what makes Apple what it is. He knows his product, invests in R&D and a like Richard Branson, is a Marketing Maharishi.
Secondly, Apple have involved the customer in the development and improvement of their products. Customers feel good using what is a very good product, and in turn talk about, show off or write about their Apple experience.
In fact, I’m considering setting up a self help group for iPhone users who want to return to the magic of reading by an oil lamp. (ahhhh the good old days … LOL…)
Apple technology really has made a big difference in the way people live and work.
Cheers
Catherine
June 12, 2010 at 7:36 pm |
Hi Catherine, thank you for joining this discussion. I really appreciate it.
In your opinion, what does Apple, post Steve Jobs, look like? Can they ever be as successful in the future without him?
Best, Robin
June 12, 2010 at 7:43 pm |
A little like asking what would Christianity be without Jesus.
Steve’s evangelists will carry on the work until Steve’s return.
June 12, 2010 at 7:49 pm |
Now that’s an iConic brand!
June 12, 2010 at 8:46 pm |
Catherine, you made me laugh (and glad I subscribed to the email updates)!
I think there’s more truth to that then fiction. I still think it comes down to the whole “create a movement” aspect of the way that Apple and Steve Jobs create a purpose “put a ding in the universe”, tribal symbols “the white iPod earphones” and give people really cool, imagination stimulating products to talk about wrapped in a really exceptional user experience.
To Roger’s point (which I might expand on after while), it’s the last part where Nokia is faltering and failing to deliver the results with their Evo ecosystem in a similar manner to what Apple’s done. I’m not talking about Nokia as a whole, because you can’t really compare Nokia with Apple the same way you can’t realistically compare Apple to Microsoft because their vision and execution strategies are so very different.
Once you’ve created the movement and inspired passionate people to be passionate about you, it should be possible to allow someone (or several someones) to step in and pick up the torch long after the messiah has departed.
June 12, 2010 at 8:47 pm |
Damn… s/Evo/Ovi/g Comment editing and/or preview would be a handy thing to have!
June 12, 2010 at 9:10 pm |
Excellent build, Andrew.
It’s the mechanics of “it should be possible to allow someone (or several someones) to step in and pick up the torch long after the messiah has departed.” that interests me. Especially as so much shareholder value may depend on it.
Let’s hope Apple are putting as much ‘designer smarts’ into their succession planning as they are their products.
Your thoughts?
June 13, 2010 at 1:14 am |
Apple’s success?
Bling perhaps… but also usability, excellent customer service and the art of the tease… we start salivating 6 months before we can actually hold the next biggest thing in our hand – sometimes longer.
Aside from that they do produce quality products that are comfortable to use, and make working on a computer far more enjoyable and productive.
I’ve received a fair bit of ‘flack’ for being an early adopter with the iPad but truly I don’t really ‘play’ on it very much. Every time I turn it on it’s to connect or communicate and I seem to be able to get that done far more efficiently than anyone would ever do on a MS Windows environment.
As much as I wish I wasn’t a slave to the Apple Corporation I do value their products and even at dinner tonight I ‘sold’ two possibly three MacBooks to friends who needed to update. For me to do that Apple must have done a good job on the whole marketing mix.
June 14, 2010 at 9:12 am |
Thank you, Helen. I’ve even held your iPad!
So what is it that makes you sell iPad so zealously to your friends and colleagues – perhaps even more persuasively that your *own* professional services?
Any thoughts?
Robin
June 13, 2010 at 9:40 am |
Hi Robin,
It’s an interesting question which I’ve blogged about a few times and is best summarised by what I wrote at the time of the Sydney Apple Store opening;
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/business-tech-talk/what-the-rest-of-us-can-learn-from-apple.html
What Apple have is a focused leader who isn’t prepared to compromise on product or margins.
Compare and contrast with competitors like Dell who allowed their margins and product quality to suffer in order to compete at the commodity end of the market and as a result lost their reputation and trust.
One of the things that I find fascinating with Apple is how they redefine markets. The iPod and iPhone entered crowded markets with large established incumbent players and managed to rewrite the rules.
Where the iPad is different is in it enters a fragmented, poorly served market. Industry has been gagging for a good tablet computer for over a decade and the Windows based manufacturers have failed dismally to cater for it, partly because of Microsoft’s failure to deliver a decent mobile OS.
http://paulwallbank.com/2010/04/05/why-i-wont-be-buying-an-ipad-for-now/
Apple are successful because they understand that selling a commodity product in today’s markets is not the path to success for innovative businesses.
I think the challenge for the company is to have a management culture that is more than Steve Jobs’ vision and personality so the company can continue to outsmart the competition with innovative, high margin products.
June 14, 2010 at 9:17 am |
Thank you, Paul. That Apple reframe commodity markets works very hard for them. It’s such an obvious strategic play, I wonder what other tech companies, if any, do this as well. Thoughts?
In your opinion, how can a post-Steve Job’s Apple ever be as successful? Is it just management culture?
Best, Robin
June 13, 2010 at 10:12 am |
It’s really simple – it’s all about design. Ever since the see-through, day-glo iMacs, Apple have been extremely good at creating designer, extremely desirable products. They have excellent attention to detail and understand the value of good design – something few organisations consider important.
And, of course, the marketing helps too. The reason they’re so good at this is because they have an extremely good grasp of what makes their target audience tick. And they know exactly how to create a cult icon – how many graphic designers are there who use anything other than a Mac? Their customers are fiercely loyal.
June 14, 2010 at 9:21 am |
Hi Bea, thank you for joining this discussion.
Apple make their products “extremely desirable” and “Their customers are fiercely loyal.” This makes sense to me.
In your opinion, what makes these loyal customers *sell* these products so hard to others? This is the marketing equivalent of the Holy Grail. Your thoughts?
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
Well, I think it really does come down to the fact that the products are well designed and therefore work extremely efficiently – and as advertised. They are very user-friendly, the learning curve is low and there are very few problems with the products. Only yesterday, I ‘shocked’ yet another designer by announcing that I work on PC instead of Mac. Designers are always horrified to hear such blasphemy and she immediately attempted to talk me into buying a Mac straight away!
Apple customers genuinely believe in the product rather than the marketing spin because they know, from experience, that the products are good. You can’t buy that or claim it through marketing. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.
As for me, I use a Mac at work but a PC at home mainly because I can’t afford to buy a new Mac every 2 years, much as I would love to
June 14, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
Oh! And I also have an iPhone, which I love. My hubby has an Android and it simply doesn’t come close to the iPhone in performance and smoothness of operation. Even though it does support Flash
I’ll be sticking with the iPhone.
June 14, 2010 at 9:10 pm |
Thank you, Bea. I appreciate your additional thoughts.
If you would like us to see your avatar with your comments, just go to http://gravatar.com.
Best, Robin
June 13, 2010 at 9:12 pm |
Robin, Great question and conversation. I think Apple’s success is the result of many factors, as success usually is. Among them:
1. Steve Jobs
2. Brilliant design
3. Aggressive R & D
4. Willingness to make expensive mistakes
5. Cultivating an energized customer/user base
6. Business model innovation
7. Strategy: Never trying to tackle the leader head-on
June 14, 2010 at 9:25 am |
Thank you, Brad. I appreciate your inputs.
Brad, are you an Apple customer? Do you buy their products? What is it about their products/message that reaches/doesn’t reach you?
I have a great respect for their products and message, but none of it actually lands with me – specifically with regards to iPhone/iPad.
Thoughts?
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 5:22 am |
Thanks to Annie Syed for pointing me to this post.
I’m a new Maccie, 2.5 weeks old and fully converted from a PC, madly in love with my Mac. I never named my HP laptop in the past 2 years, but you can bet your bottom dollar Mr Maccu Singh demanded his birthright.
I wrote a post about why I chose a Mac over a PC this time around and why I reckon Apple is such a phenomenon. Don’t usually post links but there’s so much I wrote about it that I can’t really repeat it all here http://www.coachtia.com/2010/05/26/mac-vs-pc-a-social-media-revelation/
Short version: Looks (sexy, gorgeous), Design, Usability, Intuitive features, Cheeky (Apple always holds a little back every time, tantalising and playing with us till we want more, more more!), slightly manipulative, FUN, easy.
Most importantly, Apple did 3 things right: 1) Created a unique, phenomenal product 2) Marketed cleverly 3) Focused on creating a community / tribe that manically markets for them.
I know, cos in just 2.5 weeks I feel like a zealous born again Christian .. !! Darn it Steve, one too many baths in the tub of psychology & behavioural sciences
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Tia @TiaSparkles
June 14, 2010 at 9:30 am |
Hi Tia – welcome. Thank you for participating – and thanks to Annie for signposting you here!
I appreciate your link and summary.
In your opinion, Tia, how does Apple create a community/tribe that manically markets for them? Any thoughts about the specifics here?
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 10:22 am |
I attended an Apple Education event (with our primary school) last year – it was my first experience with Apple products) other than the iPod. The Apple executives described how Apple has had success due to the “Halo Effect” – described in a CNET article as “iPod customers, having enjoyed their iPod experience and having seen Apple in a new light, might be more inclined to pick up a Mac while shopping for a new iPod case and realising their old PC is woefully out of date.” See http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9802156-37.html
Halo or not, I was mightily impressed with the iPod Touch at that event (this is the model which is exactly like the iPhone only without the phone so you can run all the iPhone applications and access the Internet) Having only ever owned a series of iPods (the “Classic”, “Mini” and “Shuffle”) I felt intrigued by the Apple company and took a newfound interest in their computers. We now own two iPod Touch which make excellent family devices (music, photos, Internet, even a remote control for our Sonos music system)
However I still have not yielded to the Apple Mac oomputer. I am “PC” through and though but I am under pressure from the children to get a Mac. Why? The reasons I believe are key to Apple’s success:
- simple, beautiful design
- focus on ease of use
- built-in applications such as Movie, Photo and Music editing
- their computers cover 80% of users’ needs within this simple, beautiful and easy-to-use design.
My daughter wants a Macbook laptop – when I asked her why, she explained that their “cool” built-in applications are so much better than the PC’s. She hasn’t experienced the PC-equivalent applications such as movie and photo editing which I would have to buy, learn and configure myself. The fact that Apple provides this out of the box in a compelling package, is part of what makes them successful.
Great commentary here as usual Robin, something we can all learn from each other about this interesting time in the age-old “Apple v Microsoft” competitive battle.
Cheers,
Tony Hollingsworth
June 14, 2010 at 9:21 pm |
Thank you, Tony. Your input is generous and informative.
Since you mention Microsoft, I’m curious, surely they could learn something from Apple? How did they get it so wrong with products like Zune and Vista? Even Windows 7 seems a bit of a fizzer??
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 9:40 pm |
I’m not sure about the Zune (I’ve never looked into it – Roger Lawrence might have a comment on that) and as for Vista, I actually enjoyed using it, never really finding it an issue.
For me, Windows 7 was a game-changer: the media center capabilities alone are worth the price of admission (I wirelessly stream content to my TV from my Windows 7 PC via the Playstation 3)
Far from being a fizzer, Microsoft actually are doing well with sales of Windows 7 – see http://www.pcworld.com/article/188111/microsoft_revenue_boosted_by_windows_7.html
As for what Microsoft could learn from Apple – I think the forthcoming Windows Phone 7 shows they have been busy improving the user experience for mobile: see http://www.windowsphone7.com/
Where Microsoft is facing strong competition most is the enterprise space, against Google and IBM. Therefore to Andrew Townley’s point its probably not a fair comparison to simply look at Apple and Microsoft (other than in the consumer space) as their vision and execution strategies are so different.
June 14, 2010 at 9:47 pm |
Excellent builds, Tony. Thank you.
I guess I meant ‘fizzer’ from my experience as a user. I changed back from Windows 7 to XP – so much easier. And Vista was a basket-case for me. But I speak from the completely uninformed end of the luddite spectrum. When it comes to technology, I’m easily confused. I’m just a simple old paying customer trying to find my way through the techno maze. Unlike your good self, who is more than equipped to navigate this space.
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 9:59 pm |
Robin, you nail it with your comment about being “a simple old paying customer trying to find my way through the techno maze”.
Microsoft’s problem is that it is a sprawling bureaucracy where the main management imperative is to protect one’s empire within a safe silo; satisfying customers or delivering a product simply aren’t the main concerns of Microsoft’s management.
Apple on the other hand are driven by Jobs who in turn is driven by creating stuff that works and looks good.
This is why I think the big challenge for Apple when Steve Jobs leaves is how they resist sinking into a bureaucratic morass like Microsoft, Dell and HP.
If you’re interested in Steve Jobs and Apple there’s an excellent interview with Jobs conducted by Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher from the Wall Street Journal’s D8 Conference;
http://d8.allthingsd.com/speakers/steve-jobs/full-session-video/?mod=D8skybox
June 14, 2010 at 10:07 pm |
I concur with Tony, and Robin, I’m intrigued that you downgraded from Win7 back to XP. I could understand that from Vista, but Win7 really is easier to use than XP, it’s quicker, and it’s more secure. You can do way more with it. Lucy, my wife, who resisted Vista even when I was a paid Microsoft Evangelism Manager, loves Win7 and demanded I upgrade all the machines at home.
And there already I’m sounding like a MS evangelist rather than an Apple one.
I think there are 2 ends to purchaser spectrum – on the one side you have those that actively seek the solution to their frustration (e.g. Geeks like me and Tony) they’re the people that read help files, manuals, and often end up as Champions, de facto support at work. Even end up in the industry.
On the other people who’d rather spend 20 mins longer doing something every time, than 1 hour to learn a new way to do it quicker once. My wife is on this end of the spectrum.
What amazes me is how:
a) Contextual this is – e.g. Lucy has no problem learning how to use her Overlocker Sewing Machine, or the fingering on a new musical instrument, but hasn’t learned to touch type yet. Despite using her computer more hours of the day than any other tool.
b) Marketing affects this – e.g. People are fine with learning (going to the Genius bar, Googling, YouTubing) how to use their Apple device, or Yamaha Sound System, but if it’s a Microsoft product they won’t put the effort in – it’s just labelled “unintuitive.” Price has nothing to do with this. Nor the abundance of Service and support.
As to Zune, as you’d expect, everyone in the family has one. But it’s a sad experience in Australia, once you’ve left MS. In the organisation you get to travel to the US annually, or know someone who does, so getting accessories and upgrades are doable. Once you leave the fold, this is a lot harder.
The product is superior to the iPods (as are many other brand MP3 players) but outside the US you just don’t have the Supply to 3rd Party accessory eco-system.
All the best
Rog42
June 14, 2010 at 4:50 pm |
I wouldn’t be surprised to look in the Oxford English Dictionary and under the definition for ‘cool’ it just had the word ‘Apple’.
Can’t add anything more not already very well said ‘cept Macs work, very well, are a joy to work with/on and once you’ve had a Mac you can never go back.
June 14, 2010 at 9:23 pm |
Is that just because ‘cool’ backwards spells ‘looc’??
Is there a post-Jobs Apple, Luke?
Robin
June 14, 2010 at 6:42 pm |
I’m certainly a happy Mac convert but I’m not really sure that Apple users are intentionally manic marketers for the products. Is their enthusiasm so different from being an advocate for the other things in our life that have worked for us? We like them, they work, we want to share our enthusiasm — so we do.
I suppose that unlike, say, bread from our local artisan bakery, there’s a reason to routinely exchange ideas/experiences with other Mac users/Apple fans because of the technology aspects. So, when we meet another Mac user there might be a bit of chatter about Apple stuff. I wonder, though, how much of a big deal it is outside the tech community. Example: I have non-techy friends who have Macs and the Apple fan conversation rarely gets going with them.
Just my two cents!
June 14, 2010 at 9:30 pm |
Thank you, Kate. I appreciate your inputs.
Take iPad for example. Of the four people I know who have bought one, *all* of them have insisted on doing a demo to present/sell the benefits. I say ‘sell’ because the presentation ends with “You should buy one, Robin”.
I’ve just never seen that degree of push from a friend or colleague with a Nokia phone, Microsoft product, BlackBerry etc.
It’s like a new level of advocacy.
Thoughts?
Great to see you, Kate.
Best, Robin
June 14, 2010 at 10:20 pm |
I obviously never new you in the Palm Pilot years, or the iPaq years, or more recently, I haven’t spoken to you about OneNote.
In fact I do have video of me doing just such a presentation with my Tablet PC, at #nscm
Part of that is the mystique of launch. Although it’s changing subtly, Apple never used to let anyone know anything at all about the product they were about to launch. Then suddenly the CEO does a keynote, and it’s in the shops everywhere in the world.
With that, early adopters snap up the device and just have to show it off to you. The “sell” at the end of the presentation is probably more about “Buyer’s Justification” than anything. “I just spent so many $$ on this, but that’s ok cos it’s really cool, and you so should have one too.”
There are launches just as big (just in different circles) – Avatar, Halo3 on the XBox (bigger than any movie launch ever). If you were in that circle you’d also hear the “You must watch that movie, buy that game etc.
But seriously, the HP Slate device won’t be launched at an HP exclusive event, keynoted by the CEO. Even Windows 7 is beta-tested by millions of users for 12 months before release. Again, hardly keynoted by SteveB. You could say the same for Dell Adamo, Sony Vaio, Fujitsu Lifebook, Holden Camaro, [name product here]… They just slip into the product catalogue, some 4 levels deep on the website in a downloadable PDF.
Do you want to know the next product that your geeky friends are going to want to “sell” you on? Do yourself a favour. Go to http://www.apple.com
So to Paul’s point, another factor is focus. With all of the advertising about iPad, announcements about iPhone 4, you’d be hard pressed to realise this company also makes computers….
June 14, 2010 at 9:43 pm |
I like my iPod, but that’s going a step too far. (Everything else I want to write is rather blunt, so I’ll leave it at that!).
Kate
June 14, 2010 at 9:51 pm |
There, I’m already getting confused between iPad and iPod. Sorry, Kate, I meant to write iPad – the big new shiny thing – (and have now edited my previous comment to reflect this).
Robin
June 14, 2010 at 10:25 pm |
To Kate’s point, I have plenty of non-tech friends who rave about the iPhone. Everyone I know with an iPhone has to share their favourite app with me.
It happened at dinner at our house on Saturday night. 4 of us had iPhones, 4 didn’t. Ironically split down the middle of the table. At one point we had to stop the iPhone app sharing chatter.
Truth be told, they are just so damned useful, and the iPad is no different. If anything, more useful.
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Rog42
October 24, 2010 at 11:41 am |
Ahh, so many thoughts … sp many insights …
For me, what makes Apple so successful is their extreme ease of use. My 3 & 5 year olds have picked up my various devices (yes, I have an iPod, iPhone & iPad) and just made them do what *they* want them to do. They can’t do that on a PC … even though PCs are the main computing devices.
The next part, again from a usability perspective, is when an apple device stops working as it should it is *usually* a straight-forward and relatvively painless process. And when it gets more complicated the Apple team (wherever they are) make it as painless as possible.
This is quite a contrast to PC … where … because of the multiple platforms, trying to isolate the cause of a problem on a PC can be excrutiatingly frustring … resulting in work-arounds and ‘make-do’ fixes … which in turn cause more problems down the track. In my experience it is very difficult to find an IT person who comprehensively knows *everything* they need to know to fix / manage a Microsoft-based platform … whereas the Apple team know what they need to know.
So in essence, in addition to the beautiful design of their products, it’s also simplicity of design. All in-house. All components designed to work together. In synergy.
I’m with Helen … swiping the slider-button on my iPad I can do what I need to do 10x faster and easier than I can do on my PC.
How could they become even more successful? – Keep doing what they’re doing … and stick to their core competencies. It’s tempting to sugest they diverge into other markets … or make ‘cheap’ versions of their Macs to be more accessible to a wider market. But you can’t pursue a premium brand (niche)strategy at the same time as a cost leadership strategy. Porter called that ‘lost in the middle’ … for Apple it would mean become mediocre.
Finally … I agree with Roger … I don’t share my enthusiasm about my Apple devices because their apple … I share my enthusiasm with them because they work … and they literally transform how I ‘do’ my thing. I would share *anything* that does that … in fact I share my enthusiasm for online grocery shopping through Woolworths just as excitedly
Thanks for another ripper conversation starter …
Cat
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October 26, 2010 at 4:37 am |
Excellent input, Cat. Thank you.
In your opinion, do you think Apple are too Steve-Jobs-dependent?
October 26, 2010 at 10:01 am |
So many comments here already. Doesn’t that in itself say something about the passion and enthusiasm Apple sparks?
There are many commenters with more insight into all of this than me so I’ll just share my personal experience as a consumer.
I’m one of those outside of the demographic but loving Apple products. I’m a bit of a gadget geek and consider myself an early adopted. I like new shiny toys. There’s definitely the “cool” appeal for me but not only from a fashion sense but also just how visually cool and appealing the products are. I’m also tactical so I love that Apple products not only look great but they feel so good to hold and lay with.
Ease of use is also a big plus. My husband who is well outside the demographic converted to Mac from PC. Last year. Despite his concerns about old dogs and new tricks, the switch over for him was almost seamless. He won’t go back. What made him switch in the first place? Well those “I’m a PC, “I’m a MAC” ads definitely cut close to home
. He also loved the super lightweight but with adequate functionality to be able to work on client site. He is also a poseur and loved the WOW factor!
So, in our house we have multiple iPods, an old nano, x2 iPhones, iPad, MBA so yes we like Apple. However, I still use a PC for work (with an apple sticker stuck on the lid) because I need to wait out the depreciation period. As soon as I can, I will switch to MAC because I’m increasingly frustrated by the lack of ease of use, the constant crashing, the impossible to understand error messages, the extra key taps required to get anything done.
In fact, I’m sitting here writing this comment on my iPad as I wait for old PC to backup and restart – that will probably chew up a good couple of productive hours today. Of course. MAC manages to do that automatically & almost instantly.
Will Apple’s success continue? I think so. As the Apple generation enters the workplace and takes over the world. As Cat said, even the kids love it. Top of my 6yr old son’s Christmas list…..iPad, then a Nintendo DS 3D…..hope Santa had a good year……
I’m not sure how much share of corporate land Apple have, or want, but perhaps that’s the next area of super growth.
Thanks for the opportunity to share my views and to read so many interesting views from others.
October 26, 2010 at 9:00 pm |
Just re-read my comment. LOL. Apologies for the many typos. Still getting used to iPad keyboard and auto-correct.
October 29, 2010 at 1:11 pm |
Thank you, Suellen.
For Apple to have such satisfied customers as you is surely one of their major assets.
What do you think are the risks, if any, to their continued success?
October 27, 2010 at 11:45 pm |
I strongly recommend to read the interview with John Sculley at CultofMac (link), it reveals a lot about the how’s and why’s on Apple.
Just to wrap it up:
Steve Jobs’ main focus is on design and user experience, always aiming for perfection, making the most of the technology available. It’s only due to the giant leaps of technology in the late 90s that Apple’s product look the way they do. On the inside, they were always leading edge, since the garage days.
Also, he thinks systems. Design, typography, printing were driving factors with the first Mac, DTP was the result (saving Apple who were on the verge of going out of business back then). This niche market was Apple’s domain for the next 10-15 years, because the IBM PC took over the general market, allowing Microsoft to get the biggest slice of the pie.
Speaking of Microsoft, Bill Gates has an entirely different approach on doing business and what matters. Microsoft is a fragmented organisation dominated by engineers. You know why you still find three different printing dialog boxes in Outlook, or the same useless one as in the last ten years in IE8? Each one has been coded by a different team, that’s why (see Don Norman’s speech at the 2009 Business of Software conderence (link)). Their focus is “lets make something that works (somehow)”.
To keep it short, both companies are reaping today what they have sown more than 20 years ago.
Since Robin likes to ask how Apple would do without Mr Steve, I don’t know. One would hope they learned their lessons after they first fired him in ’86 and the board will urge him to find a high potential inside or outside the company and make him crown prince. On the other hand, Apple is Jobs’ life work and I think he’s not releasing it easily, so a successor will have to earn his merits which might put the company at stake.
As we all know, media is just waiting to create the next hype to boost their own numbers. And popular as Apple is today, it’s becoming ever harder for them to stand this pressure and raise of expectation because everyone just seems to be waiting for a failure. “See, I told ya!” In the end, everything can be viewed as a fad. That’s the consumers’ perspective. What’s the latest trend and am I participating?
I personally only wish that some people, especially designers, engineers, technicians but also marketers look further than that and see an inspiration at what Apple and Steve Jobs have been doing so far.
Thank you for reading.
June 15, 2012 at 4:36 am |
Apple has created a reputation for themselves in terms of image. Apple approached their products by making the brand very admirable. Owning an apple product is more than just materialism, it represents status. Apple has done remarkably in their innovation of Mac Books, Ipads, Ipods, Iphones, and whatever I may have left out. Their products have a very techy and futuristic feel while preserving a simplistic look. Apple products appeal to people of all groups; no matter what gender, sex, nationality, or age, you will find an Apple product that will fit into your lifestyle.
On top of just the product, Apple has done well in terms of their business strategy. The focus on what they do well which is design and outsource the rest. Although Apple outsources parts and assembly of the products, they are very strict with their standards. They are able to maintain their reputation by making sure all their vendors work according to their standards. By outsourcing, they are able to increase their profits by keeping the production costs low.
Apple’s profits have been climbing consistently because they are consistently coming up with new innovations. It seems to me that as soon as you get the new iphone, Apple is already designing their next one. There is a desire to have the most updated Apple product and people are willing to pay extra just for that.
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